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A_KnottyDaddyDom
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Leathermen

* Leathermen ~
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The LGBT Community has a variety of subcultures and Groups.

One component has historical roots to the BDSM Community and to biker culture, resulting in a noticeable number of Gay men wearing a lot of cured animal hide in suggestive cuts.

The leather tradition is generally traced back to Gay servicemen returning from WWII.
They became the biker gangs of the 50s, and it sort of went from there. The BDSM part sort of merged in later. In fact, some of the older Leathermen (the "Oʟᴅ Gᴜᴀʀᴅ") have few if any S&M tendencies. Just a strict code of Honor, obedience to tradition and hierarchy and a strict set of Rᴜʟᴇs.

A related, but distinct Group, are Bears, masculine types with body hair, heavy-set builds, and/or "traditionally" masculine behavior.

Both Groups formed in part because the Gay Community itself had developed certain stereotypical expectations - typically, hairless young "Metrosexuals". Or, Drag Queens.

The defining characteristic of both Groups was a certain visibly identifiable look and behavior.
Which, of course, meant that once TV got around to even acknowledging that there was a Gay Subculture, these two were mashed together as possibly the stereotype to portray, after "classical" Gay archetypes. Especially if the setting involved jail at any point. The popularity of, The Village People, and the artwork of Tomof Finland probably helped.

Needless to say, character development seldom proceeds beyond "big, hairy, aggressive Gay biker".

May or may not be Hell-Bent For Leather. Not to be confused with the multi-tool of the same name.



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* Military Heritage ~
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It's widely reported that Leather - the American phenomena of Leather as a subculture - resulted from the US military involvement in World War II.

While there have always been individuals who have practiced organized acts of Sᴀᴅɪsᴍ and Mᴀsᴏᴄʜɪsᴍ, it wasn't until after World War II that a recognizable Community of practitioners began to coalesce in the US.

There are four ways in which the military unknowingly contributed to that development:
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01. The Formation Of Gay and Lesbian Identities and Communities:
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For thousand of Gay men and hundreds of Lesbian women, recruitment and the draft lead to "coming out" - in both the sense of experiencing a Homosexual encounter for the first time and in the sense of identifying as Gay publicly or semi-publicly. While many were not permitted to enlist or were forced out later because of their orientation, those who served in the military had positive experiences despite the military's mostly Homophobic policies:
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A. They were exposed to a largely positive military discipline.

B. They were largely tolerated - some times even respected - by their Heterosexual peers.

C. They were able to network and develop secret means of recognition.

D. They were able to form friendships through mutual adversity.
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On a less positive note, many who returned from the second World War - Heterosexual as well as Homosexual - were changed for the worse. Some were troubled by what they had seen and experienced. They were rootless, antisocial and self destructive.

02. Motorcycle Clubs:
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It's widely accepted that the American military was the genesis of American motorcycle clubs. The Harley-Davidson company and the Indian Motorcycle Company supplied motorcycles in the first World War and Harley-Davidson provided 90 thousand motor bikes for the allies during World War II. Afterwards some GIs brought back the bikes they rode on during the conflict. But for those that hadn't, they were still able to purchase Army surplus motorcycles at a pittance. Many free-wheeling Veterans spent their weekends driving from town to town and drinking at bars. Many of these mounted Veterans formed motorcycle clubs.
As the authors of one motorcycle history put it:
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"The genealogy of the "bad biker" starts loosely after World War II, when US service men returned after taking part in a conflagration that saw over 50 million people slaughtered .... Upon returning home, they found it wasn't the same. Some of them climbed on motorcycles and wandered the byways and highways of America looking for answers to unanswerable questions or teamed up with their war buddies, either because they felt safer in the company of their brothers-under-arms or they didn't quite fit back into the relatively low ebb of civilian life. Motorcycles maybe gave them back the edge they needed, the adrenaline rush they had experienced so often in combat".
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Hunter S. Thompson writes much the same thing:
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"The whole thing [the outlaw biker scene] was born, they say, in the late 1940s, when most ex-GIs wanted to get back to an orderly pattern: college, marriage, a job, children - all the peaceful extras that come with a sense of security. But not everybody felt that way. Like the drifters who rode west after Appomattox, there were thousands of Veterans in 1945 who flatly rejected the idea of going back to their pre-war pattern. They didn't want order, but privacy - and time to figure things out. It was a nervous, downhill feeling, a mean kind of angst that always comes out of wars .... a compressed sense of time on the outer limits of fatalism. They wanted more action, and one of the ways to look for it was on a big motorcycle. By 1947 the state of California was alive with bikes, nearly all of them powerful American-made irons from Harley-Davidson and Indian".
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Many adopted the names of their club after World War II fighter squadrons such as the "Hell's Angels". While many motorcycle clubs were strictly Heterosexual, some were not. While many motorcycle clubs did not encourage Sᴀᴅᴏᴍᴀsᴏᴄʜɪsᴍ, some clubs did.

03. Leather Uniforms:
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The original Leather jackets were brown flight jackets that Army pilots took home with them after the war and used to keep warm while cycling.
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04. Colors:
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Today, Members of both Leather clubs and motorcycle clubs wear "Colors" (large patches that identify their club affiliation) on the back of their Leather vests and Leather jackets. The Colors are a source of great Pride for the Membership and they will go to great lengths to prevent their theft by or recover from rival clubs. It's very likely that this can be traced from the American and European military traditions of regimental and troop Colors - the Flags and standards that served the vital role of rallying point during battle. The soldiers entrusted with the Colors protected them zealously - sometimes to their death.
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In battle, Colors were more than symbols of Pride and Patriotism.
They served a vital role in life and death struggles. In order to fight successfully - and hopefully survive their battles - it was necessary for fighting units to stay together - whether they were advancing, retreating or staying put. In the chaos of battle and under difficult visual conditions (such as night fighting or thick clouds of gun smoke), the unit's Colors were the best way of identifying where the fighting unit was at any one time.
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If the Colors were lost, so was the unit.

This might explain why today's Leathermen still take great pains to protect their Colors from rival clubs.



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* Definitions Of The "Oʟᴅ Gᴜᴀʀᴅ" ~
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In the BDSM scene, trying to come to an agreement about the "Oʟᴅ Gᴜᴀʀᴅ" is a lot like comparing the merits of various religions. The problem is compounded by conflicting understandings of the term.

Oʟᴅ Gᴜᴀʀᴅ -
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From the French, "Vieille Garde," historically referring to the senior Members of Emperor Napoleon Bonaparte's Imperial Guard. The Imperial Guard was a prestigious and well paid group which Napoleon formed in 1804 from the senior infantry regiments which had comprised his Consular Guard. They were highly Disciplined, experienced, elite professional soldiers.
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Often reactionary, element of a class, society, organization, or political group. Often a derogatory term.

In the BDSM scene, the term, "Oʟᴅ Gᴜᴀʀᴅ", is applied specifically the Community of Gay men who adopted an early Leather Lifestyle following World War II and before the 1960s. These Leathermen didn't create the term or use it to describe what they were doing. "Oʟᴅ Gᴜᴀʀᴅ" was originally a derogatory term applied to those Veteran players by a younger and more inclusive generation of Leathermen who came later. Many of the Gay men that formed what was later called the "Oʟᴅ Gᴜᴀʀᴅ" had served in the military during World War II and they retained many military traits such as respect for uniform, obedience to the chain of command, and Dɪsᴄɪᴘʟɪɴᴇ. Their Community was very insular and stasis within it was based on merit and seniority. It's been said often that one had to "earn his leathers" to be accepted and work his way up the ranks from novice sub to experienced Master. In addition to the military character, this new scene incorporated black leather, motorcycle clubs, motorcycle runs, motorcycles, protocols, and a very macho Gay male sexuality. In time the appellation became more respectable, even admirable and in retrospect accounts of the Oʟᴅ Gᴜᴀʀᴅ acquired a mythic quality. A popular perception evolved that the Oʟᴅ Gᴜᴀʀᴅ was a unified Group with a clearly defined, uniform set of Protocols, Membership requirements and practices.
It has been debated whether that was the case.

In the BDSM scene, the term "Oʟᴅ Gᴜᴀʀᴅ" also refers to modern day leather folk who have "earned their leathers" under an unbroken tradition of mentorship which can trace it's origins to a member of the original "Old Guard." Some question the existence of such a tradition while other are adamant about the validity of the "long leather line."

In the scene, the term "Oʟᴅ Gᴜᴀʀᴅ" is applied to describe practices or players which are reminiscent of the Oʟᴅ Gᴜᴀʀᴅ of the recent past. It's characterized by a High Protocol and a black leather "uniform". More often than not the title is self designated and is not restricted to Homosexual Leathermen. It's not unheard of for novice Heterosexual male Doms to designate themselves as "Oʟᴅ Gᴜᴀʀᴅ" without having benefited from mentorship. Sometimes the abuse of the term becomes laughable in a gallows humor way. Steven H. Bailey ("The True Master") - who admitted to killing a Pʟᴀʏ partner through his gross ineptitude - proudly declares himself to be "Oʟᴅ Gᴜᴀʀᴅ". What once was a term of ridicule among Gay men has now become a sought after designation among both the Homosexual and Heterosexual BDSM crowd. Oʟᴅ Gᴜᴀʀᴅ is now synonymous with experienced, Honorable, accomplished and Masterful. However, the designation is easy adopt and it's value is dubious.

One way to avoid misunderstanding and arguments is to substitute the term, "High Protocol", for Oʟᴅ Gᴜᴀʀᴅ.



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Mᴏʀᴇ Tᴏ Fᴏʟʟᴏᴡ

Sᴛᴀʏ Tᴜɴᴇᴅ ᴀɴᴅ

Cʜᴇᴄᴋ Bᴀᴄᴋ Oғᴛᴇɴ

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As 2014 comes to an end, do not look back at`the year's disappointments ....
look ahead to all the online dating Frauds yet`to unfold in 2015

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2015 New Year's Resolution:
To tolerate Fakes, Liars AND Posers more openly ....
provided this does not encourage them to take up more of`my time

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How`much`trust`can`you have in an online dating site`where
even`the`[blog Andrew]`&`CEO`lies`about`his`Date Of Birth???

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Happy`Hump Day, Pervs`&`Pervettes,`from`sunny`San Diego ....
now`if"we could all"just`find our`other`half"here`to participate!!!

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Tuesday, 20 January 2015

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Looking`for`my`personal`porn star .... does"she"exist`here???

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Saturday, 24 January 2015

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VD·is·over"and"done·with .... until"next"year

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Greetings and Happy Saturday, 21 February 2015 .... from San Diego

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Greetings and Happy Monday, 06 April 2015 .... from San Diego

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